Smyth Irish Setters BEWARE

Advertises AKC registered Irish Setters. Provided me dogs that are physically and psychologically damaged. Has been investigated in May 2006 by police for animal neglect. Several Irish Setters that go to Irish Setter Rescue of Wisconsin and Save our Setters come from Smyth Irish Setters. BEWARE. Investigate first.

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Smyth Setters has never been investigated by police, because in 2006, it was not illegal to run a Puppy Mill in Wisconsin. If you go to http://wcca.wicourts.gov/simpleCaseSearch.xsl;jsessionid=77570189ACAFB9676B03F491FF1EB53A.render6

And try her name, or her business name you will see that she has NEVER been investigated, has not so much as a parking ticket. But as a business, she will be made aware of this and has the legal recourse to do something about it. I think your smear campaign against Rose is about to come to an end, and if nothing else, Keith Van Cleve, Sheriff of Forest County will be contacted ASAP. Screen shots, saved posts, EVERYTHING.

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As of August 5, 2010, there has been NO investigation by Forest County of Smyth Setters. This guy hasn't a clue. He claims on another site that Smyth Setters puts dogs into dumpsters. Guess what? Smyth Setters has no dumpsters other than your usual household dumpsters, the smaller black ones. A dog wouldn't even fit in one. This guy, I feel, is either just some nut that really needs help, or perhaps a jilted lover of Roselle (the owner of Smyth Setters) Again, you can check the police blotter of Forest County dating back to 2000 and there has never been a complaint, or an investigation of Smyth Setters. And a little more information, this dude is from the state of WASHINGTON and has never even been to Wisconsin. It's a comedy.

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I see that "Save our Setters" is at it again. It is my opinion that "Save our Setters" is nothing more than a scummy, low life operation that is having problems selling their sick and defective "puppy mill" dogs so they engage in slander, lible, and trade liable of repatable breeders. Many breders are familiar with this "Save our Setters" phoney rescue group. They are a bunch of unethical liarers that will do or say anything in order to make a fast buck selling their sick dogs. They run a big puppy mill operation in Tennessee, while claiming to be engaged in rescue. They have a few low rent, low life hillbillies that do their dirty work for them by running around the country trying to buy dogs from ligitamate breeders and then sell them at a big mark up. I spoke to one breeder and they told me that the Save our Setters people came to their house after they had advertized a litter of puppies on the internet. The represenitive told the breeder that "Save our Setters" were having a hard time getting dogs to sell and that they would take all the puppies they could produce and resell them through this phony rescue origanization. They were trying their best to turn the breeder into a puppy mill operation for them to use. BEWARE of Save our Setters, don't walk away from this low rent operation, RUN!!!

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SOS is a reputable resue organization that picks up dogs that are stray or abused. They come from commercial breeders, back yard breeders and people who just can't keep up with the breed. If you know anything about Irish Setters you would ask for a pedigree. If a pedigree has an Irish Setter mixed with a red setter you know right there the breeder is bad. SOS gets stuck with all the bills from irresponsible greedy breeders that could care less about the dog or wether it lives or dies. Just as long as they have there money. Let see smyth kennels cough up a coupkle of pedigrees. Shes mixing everything uup there. Beware mill breeders you are starting to get a lot of exposure. It is nopt going to be so easy to sell these dogs without pedigrees and a visit to your home.

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This person has been posting elsewhere that their dog was defective because it eats grass, and complained about the breeder because she was having a hard time trying to catch her dogs to give them vaccinations and worming medications.

It seems that you are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill, a lot a whining about nothing.

My dog eats grass all the time, so do most dogs. It is normal for dogs to eat grass, or in the spring about March, it would be dry grass (hay as you call it). Dogs that have a large outside place to run and play (as the kennel you describe) will eat the dry grass in it in spring and the green grass in the summer. Here is a quote from an article on the internet concerning why dogs eat grass (or hay as he likes to call it):

"Are you concerned when your dog or cat eats grass, then throws up afterwards? You'll probably feel relieved to know that pets eat grass because their bodies need it.

"Dogs and cats have been eating grass for a long time. In fact, grass is so popular among dogs that one species, dog grass, is named after them. Dog grass is also known as couch grass and quackweed, and it grows in all but the southern-most states." There are over 400,00 entries on google about this subject!

As for worms in dogs, all dogs have worms. They are born with worms. It is natural for them to have worms. It is people who don't like the worms, so in very recent years they have invent worm medicines that kill worms. All wild dogs have worms. Anyone who has a dog know that they must deworm them regularly, especially kennel owners. The fact that dogs don't like to take worm medicine is quite natural, I have a hard time getting my dog to take his worm medicine as well. And mention the word "shot" in his presence and he will run and hide. Here is an article from the internet on worms:

"One of the issues that the majority of puppies have to deal with is worms. Most puppies are born with worms and they need to be taken to the vet for treatment (to be dewormed). [if you lack the will to deworm yourself] The vet will take a stool sample and check it for worm eggs. The most common worm found in puppies is the roundworm. These worms are caused by intestinal parasites that were transmitted from mother to puppy before birth or from mother's milk during feeding. Most vets recommend treating pregnant mothers with a deworming medication during the last weeks of pregnancy to decrease transmission."

Another thing, when you buy a mature dog from anyone, especially these from RESCUE operations, the dog will shy away from you and may take some time getting used to the new owner and environment. That is why most people buy them when they are little. It is obvious you know little about dogs, but like to complain a lot. Perhaps you just need a little therapy yourself, or perhaps an adjustment in your medications. If you don't like a kennel you shouldn't buy a dog from them. ...let alone buy two and whine about it. It looks more like ax grinding to me. Yes, the people here got you pegged right. You have an agenda... and it is quite obvious to everyone here exactly what it is. You are nothing more than one of those phony rescue operations that bad mouths reputable breeders, like the one here, so you can sell ($300 to $400 is NO adoption fee) your sick and often defective dogs to the unsuspecting public because you are so good at posing as little "angels of mercy", begging people to give you money to run your operation. We all know what happens to these funds don't we? Yes, your "rescue" operation is unlicensed, unregulated and unethical. You are no experts on anything. And if you and your frineds keep publishing libel and slandering reputable breeders, you will find yourself in a court of law with a lawsuit on your behinds. You think that you are quite smart calling the police and making false report. I would look out becouse the police that you called are looking for your friends in "Save our Setters Inc." for filing a false police report in the state where they are located. If some one whats to adopt a dog go to a LICENSED animal shelter, these are often run by the city, town, or county. Don't get a dog from alleged "rescue" operation that are nothing but bad mouthers because you may well end up with a animal that has disease or other problems. (right now the SOS group is trying to sell dogs with PROVO! BEWARE) And all it does is to give them money in order to run down reputable breeders, with false, malicious, defamatory, libelous and slanderous attacks, used in an attempt to chase buyers their own way.

Incidentally, the breeder mentioned produces the finest Irish Setters in the country and has had a long tract record of producing gentle mellow temperament dogs of over 35 years. It is YOU and YOUR GROUP that we need to beware of!

Buddy, your agenda has been exposed now run along.

Eric</b>

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Yes, I agree with Don King, it is my opinion also that this guy is a real nut job, perhaps off his medications! Why would he go back to the breeder and buy another dog from them if the first one was defective? Yep, this guy is not playing with a full deck! One brick shy of a full load! Incidentally, the "rescue" group he mentions sold a dog to a lady I talked from down south and she ended up spending over $25,000. in vet's bills only for the dog to die. She only had it for about a year and it was dead! She then went to a breeder and purchased a happy, well adjusted, healthy dog. You know these "rescue" groups don't give you a guarantee like a breeder will. At least if you get a dog with a congenital defect from a breeder, you can get a replacement. So BEWARE of "Save our Setters" and other "rescue" operations such as them! They are animal rights terrorists, real wackos.

E. Bobel

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It is my opinion that this guy is working for one of those puppy broker operations that disguises themselves as a "rescue" operations. These groups fool people into giving them money so they can go to dog auctions and buy dogs very cheap and resell them for big profits. Often they get dogs for nothing from people and sell them as well for big profits, calling it an adoption fee ($400 or $500 dollars is no adoption fee!) You can find these "rescue" operations on the internet whining about how they can't sell their dogs because breeders keep producing quality pets for people and most people would rather buy a healthy puppy directly from a repeatable kennel than to buy a pet from one of these puppy brokers, disguised as a "rescue" operations! They then go around the internet and post false accusations (legally know as liable or defamation or slander) in order to scare people from buying from repeatable breeders and come to them, where they will really get a puppy mill dog, since these folks buy their dogs from these type of operation in the first place. They often make false complains to police, so then they can say "the police investigated such and such a kennel" leaving out the fact that when the police investigated, they found the allegations made by these folks to be just FALSE.

I wrote this man and asked him several questions and he never answered me. Wonder why? I asked him why would he buy another dog from a breeder if the other dog you bought from them years ago was defective??? And incidentally, here is no such "rescue" operation registered in the state that he mentions. I then contacted the breeder and asked them if they ever sold a dog to this man, who goes by the name "Walter Wood". They said they have never heard of him. They said they are required to keep records of owners of their dogs by the AKC, and that the AKC inspects their kennel regularly. Furthermore, their dogs are guaranteed to be free from any congenital, life threatening defects. This breeder requires that if a dog is found with a congenital defect that the owner send a written statement along with the veterinarian's findings to them via registered mail and that they would replace the defective pet, if after inspection by their vet the animal if found defective. This man says his dog is "psychologically" damaged, one wonders how a dog could be psychologically damaged, especially since he has owned the dogs for a long time and got them when they were just little pups. Puppies are placed when they are just a few weeks old, if they become "psychologically damaged" they would have to have become that way because of the way the new owner was treating his pets for a long period of time. It is my opinion that this man is psychologically damaged himself! A real nut job! (If he really exists at all!)

Sincerely,

Don King